Should we use science to create real life furries?
Well, I see half of Furries at this rate want to see a real Furry.
i wasnt sure how to answer this... i do belive that i AM a cat... however i do belive i understand the meaning of this question as: should we genetically splice human and animal dna? i would gladly undergo this. so yes, i do belive science should.
she's blinded me with science! and a really fluffy arse!
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Who blinks you? and I wouldn't say that A word again, Don't want you to get in trouble with Giza.
Well, I don't mind you saying it, Just don't use it 100% of the time.
And as for the first question, You said "She's blinded me with science!" I was wondering who you was talking about.
haha, that's an none-to-obscure reference to a song by the same name.
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eh maybe
if it's only me doing research no
if i have a team of genetic engineers with unlimited funding yes.
Well, It is possible, That why I asked, If we carefully combine the right genes together, We could be about to creat a living breathing Furry. Hopefully they will take the genetics to have the speak part of the brain that only human's have.
I think we should start with giving a Human the gene to grow fur.
I voted no D=
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Knowing the US government, we can probably already do this behind closed doors x3333
Yeah I have no doubt...I mean god bless America "waves US flag"
Well for now, I wave a different flag, In 6 years time, I will join you.
Yea, Well, You got to think, If we are able to fine tune these experments, We could be able to make a super Human, That if these Furries mantain there Animal features like: Super Smell, Super Hearing And possible sense Fear too.
But then problems become to show, For example: If I am right, Dogs can only see in black and white, So if a furry picks up to see in black and white then we would have to tune that.
But If we do fine tune all the problems, We could make a ulimate specise that could be more dangerious then Humans, Or worse they could be used for War.
So FreakingDwarf, I have proved you right in a way, Knowing the Goverment, They could use these experments to use it the there advantage and use them for war.
I said maybe. There are problems.. experimenting with human DNA to create different types of beings will have a lot of protesters.. not to mention the fact that those of us who want to be furries wouldn't be able to, who's to say the ones that are made into furries before birth would even want to be as they grow up? It could end up being a disaster, unless they can learn to modify an adult's body to be a furry.
Well, You have a point, I would gladly let them test on me, I would like to see it science can atleast turn you into a Furry, But it can be a bit of a choice, Kind of like having a sex change is a choice, We could do it a bit like that.
Well The way I hear it is They Can already Splice a Tail onto a human Body, its Amazingly expensive BUT doable. It would take years to learn to work the tail as well.... Also I hear the DNA Might be rejected by your boydy if that happens Then They not onnly have to remove it but theres no trying with that animal again...so if you traied a dog tail you couldnt try again with a different dogs tail, you would have to try with a cat or something
You have a point, The body may reject tissure you add to the body, But in term of Gene transplants, It can be possible to grow Animal features.
That why I didn't being up the Idea of transplanting Animal body parts to a Human, For example the Head, You would have to remove the brain and break the spinal cord, And if anyone listens in Biology class, You would know that if you break the spinal cord, You can not repair it without advance Stem cell research which it's still in it infency. (Early stages.) So it be useless to do so.
And you would have to be on Medication (Medical drugs.) that still basically give you the same body defences as someone with Aids, So it very risky.
That's why I think Gene transplants is the way to do this. And you wouldn't have to take part away from animals too, So only Human's suffer if thinks go wrong, So Animal testing isn't a problem then.
Anyone agree? or Disagree?
i was actually mulling this over before this poll came out: if you could create a wire frame, like in a fursuit, and then coat it with some kind of protein that allows an animal fetus's stem cell to grow into skin and cover the frame, you would have a wearable animal skin. of course, there are little technical problems like how to move the tail, ears, etc. i think if you could take some kind of retainer and equip it with sensors, you could control them by sliding your tongue across your teeth or applying pressure to certain points on your jaw. for instance, by touching your tongue to the central incisor(the flat looking one you use to take a bite of a sandwhich) of the top jaw, you could select the suit's ears, and then by sliding your the tip of your tongue across your teeth, you can turn them the speed and direction you want. similar mechanisms could be used for the tail. but i don't know how you could do it with your mouth open.
similarly, you could place hearing aids and microphones in the ears, then wire the microphones to a small computer in the tail designed to convert sound higher and lower than humans can hear into hearable frequencies. i can't seem to figure out how you would increase sense of smell, though. maybe drugs?
meh, i'm not going to bother editing this one for capitalization errors...
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Well, That would be artafishel (Not real.) Not a living thing, Or change someone into a Furry permently.
But it's a nice thought, And we are at the moment developing a machine that can sense smell for all I know.
Something else I haven't seen brought up is this:
If we create another life form that is sentient, wouldn't that life form then have... rights?
What then?
That's a good point, Does it get animal or Human rights, I would say human rights if it can be taught how to understand the world we live in, Or as I said earlier that splits us from animals is the Speach part of the Human brain, Even if it was under developed I would still say it should have human rights, But I would say we would have to creat muiltple experiments to see if they have a range of abilities, So we don't get the failed experiment and then judge on that.
I have thought about this for years if your wondering why am talking about this.
Yea, But Humans have a part of the Brain that deals with speach, No other animal has this, Not monkeys or Parrots.
I think that what should seprate if it should have human or Animal rigths.
Or, If it understands that it should get Human rights then give it human rights.
Wow, This complex.
Spoken speech? Sure. But that doesn't mean other animals (or hybrids thereof) cannot construct sentences using simple grammar.
I cite as an example Koko the gorilla, who understands 1,000 signs in American Sign Language.
i think it should be based on the genetic structure of the organism. if it's a human(or human embryo) with animal genes grafted on, it should be treated as a human. if it's an animal with human genes grafted on, it would just be treated as an animal. although, if, say, they have a dog, and they erase half it's genome and replace it with a human's(through whatever means) and then dot the remaining chromosomes with human alleles, too, then it would be roughly 51+% human, so it might earn human rights as soon is it becomes more than half human. which raises the question, what if it's exactly half human and half dog?
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You have another good point, We should creat more and test the abilities of our creations.
Then we can judge if it would be allowed which rights.
Actually for genetic modification you don't have to splice in genes, just change the current ones, there is only about 3% difference in genes between us and most of the animal kingdom.
I learnt something, Well, If there's a 3% diffence in genes, then why don't we have the ability to grow fur like animals? Our's is a bit short and spaced out, Well, That what's happening to me anyway.
well we have learned that humans long ago were once covered with much more, much thicker body hair, and that through our development as a species we have lost most of it. i would think that that would be a doable procedure to grow fur. we would just be undoing what our bodys... undid. lol
Another going Point, We lost our hiar os that our brains can develop to a large size, Because with the hair, We would overheat the brain and then Die, But then Sweating was a good way to cool down the body and so it would be ointless to have wet Fur, So we lost it.
But why don't we gene transplant the genes that make animal have their super senses, Like taking the gene from a dog that allows it to have much better hearing than us.
How about that?
part of the reason they have so much better hearing than us us is the actual ear design.. so it might be a bit more complicated than that.
That's why I said about gene transplant, We could just take genes that give a dog it ear's structor.
But then you would have dog ears like sticking out the side of your head. Our heads our shaped differently, would be interesting to see how that works.
Couldn't hurt to experiment with the gene structor to move them towards the top of the head.
I think I would totally do it so yeah. Gotta be a way to manipulate genes for this sort of thing. if done right early enough it should work ya?
I wouldn't mind being experimented on, I am 15 so I am still growing so I could grow into the Furry genes, If we are able to make turning into a Furry like a oppration or something.
Do I dare even throw in the religious ramifications that making an anthro creature would stir up... Globally.
Good Point, They usually get involved and they win all the time, Because of the believe that if you do something like this, You are playing god and that's wrong.
I had a good Idea for that, We could break our Tail bone, Clone the bones, Then add to the body, The clone other parts like veins, Blood, Nerves and skin atleast.
Reason why I said Clone is because, the body's denfence only reject things that don't have the same gene structor as the body, Sp rejection would be less of a problem, But the cloning could take years to do, That's the only downside I can see.
once we get this whole stem cell thing down, i bet we could convince them to form into a tail by adding a couple more to the fetus's tailbone section.
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That and we can most probably repair all kinds of problems, Like Giving Disabled people the use of their legs bck, If they so wish.
And we can Creat organs for transplants too.
yes, but human cloning is outlawed because if Chuck Norris were cloned, then it would be possible for a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick to meet another chuck Norris roundhouse kick. scientists theorize this would end the universe.
This thread desperately needed some Chuck Norris.
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They would not have to brake it. I am sure they could grow you a tail of sorts, but I do not know how they could put real fur on it. Humans do not grow fur just hair, so you better look for a furry toupee for your tail.
wow! I geuss your not the only one thinking about growing a tail.
Here is a thread I found.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=54575
"The longest human tail on record belonged to a twelve-year-old boy living in what was then[when?] French Indochina, which measured 22.9 cm (9 inches).[citation needed] A man named Chandre Oram, who lives in West Bengal, a state in India, is famous because of his 33 cm (13 inches) tail. It is not believed to be a true tail, however, but rather a case of spina bifida."
I got it, To grow Fur, We can use skin from our head, Clone that and then we can shape that into Fur, People say my hair is like a pelt anyway. Mainly my grandmother.
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